Wednesday, April 25, 2007

Whitley Strieber; Dead Man Walking?

I see from my sources that Mr. Whitley Streiber felt it was necessary, once again, to tell lies about me despite the fact that I have not been a poster at his site for almost two years now.

What is it he is so afraid of?

Obviously it is something other than physical violence on my part, since after the debacle involving his banning me from the messsage board for having the audacity to have an opinion about the odd circumstances and exotic explanations surrounding the death of the infamous Harvard abduction-psychiatrist John Mack, he then banned me from entering his website because someone in his chatroom mistook something I said for literal when I was employing a metaphor ...and yet even after I immediately cleared that up via e-mail and let him know I was not threat to him, he still continues today to insist (LIE) that I literally threatened his life.

To show you just how much of a confabulator he is, here is his recent posting on his website regarding his justification for banning some people who happen to also have opinions that he finds threatening, followed by a reference to me and the malicious slander he insists on spewing about me "threatening him." I then paste in my e-mail response to him, which he received as evidenced by his return response. This should open a few eyes as to his deliberate and continued public campaign to invalidate myself and my own personal claims as he has done from just about day one when I began posting on his message board in the "When There Is A Witness Thread..."

Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007; 2:35 pm

"Susano, Lab Rat and Patricia are off this board.
The whole issue of close encounter is still in
question, and we need to approach it in a way that
encourages discussion and the
exchange of information.
That was not happening here, and my previous warnings
to be more accepting of the opinions of others were
not heeded, in my opinion.
This is not an 'admin' decision. My administrator is
instructed only to ban those who directly violate our
posting rules, and that
instruction stands.
This is the second time that I have taken this sort
of action, in the history of my board. The first was
against a poster styled as
OneSmartRat, who threatened
my life in my subscriber section chat
The log containing the threat was turned
over to the
appropriate authorities."

My past e-mail response directly to Strieber on this matter:


Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:48:29 -0800 (PST)




Send Complete Text



Never did I or anyone else here using this URL make any such statement intended to be taken as an actual threat. In fact I do not recall making any such statement at all, unless it was part of a broader dialogue and context; said in jest or obvious metaphor within the context I was discussing at that time. Any real threat would have obviously been taken as such by the other chat room participants and reported; obviously no one did by your own admission, therefore your justification here is truly secondary and false to your actions against me and further demonstrates your primary motive is based on discriminatory behavior because of your personal anomosity towards me out of you disdain of my personal views and opinions.

Please send the complete text to which you refer or I will pursue legal redress for the discrimination issues at hand and now retaliatory termination of my subscribership.

How any reasonable person could possibly imagine an actual bullet being fired through cyberspace into "Mr. Strieber's head" is really beyond any commonly accepted notions of rational thinking. This would be funny if it wasn't so sad a reflection on your obvious personal insecurity. I can only imagine that you are either a far more severe pathological liar then I first thought, or, you have deliberately taken some metaphorical or obviously symbolic reference and, once again, deliberately twisted what I said OUT OF CONTEXT to your own personal ends. Ends which apparently involve making sure that people like me with beliefs and opinions threatening to your own are not heard or believed in your public forum. It is surely clear to me, as well as many others now, that I am a threat to you, but it is more than evident at this point that the threat has never been, and is not now, a physical one, and ofcourse you know that as well.

As a matter of documented record, I had another poster on your message board threaten to "give me a near death experience" and when that was reported to the "board administrator" (you) you chose to ignore it. Once again, during this same time period, you targetted only me for your so-called application of the "civil rules" because you had already singled me out because of my "controversial" views. ALL of what I claim is documented in the archives of which I have a full copy, as do several others who were witnesses to this discriminatory treatment in real time as it was unfolding.

What exactly are you so afraid of anyway? Is is the truth about me, or the truth about yourself that terrrifies you more?

Since you are now using it as a basis to now discontinue my subscribership, please send copy of full text you have referred to in your opening remark here to me via this e-mail address to prove your absurd claim.

I still expect an answer to my letter, that was e-mailed BEFORE you decided to block my access to the site, obviously negating your excuse of some life threatening remark as you state is the reason for your action...which came AFTER I sent you my complaint.

My letter of complaint addresses discriminatory treatment extending much farther back in time than your latest excuse to deny my subscriber benefits, and it was written and sent BEFORE your latest action. I will not accept any cancellation of my subscribership or partial refund of dues paid as a satifactory resolution since this behavior towards me predates these latest events and does not address the bulk of my complaint and you have never responded to past complaints or inquiries on this matter. Instead of resolving this matter, your action now escalates it into an issue now compounding the original complaint that now includes retaliatory actions against me for making my complaint to you and asking for redress.

Funny, if that excuse given above was the reason, my URL was not blocked until after I mailed my complaint or that I still had access to the subscriber's section and even the chat room, UNTIL I signed in as onesmartrat this evening and was suddenly bounced out.

Does it feel good to silence anybody with a story or opinion that doesn't agree with your own?

How frightened you are of words that you manipulate them into use as weapons against others.

[The rest of letter deleted as it concerns legal issues]

His response:

Strieber wrote:

The statements of a user from your ISP address were
the subject of complaints from other users, which we
have on file. This website is private property. It
offers public access under conditions which the said
user violated. Therefore, access was withdrawn. Any
user at that ISP who had purchased a subscription has
been refunded.

Just so you all understand the context within this supposed
"death threat" took place was within the chatroom section of his

I had been in conversation with some others and was conveying my
interest in debating Mr. Strieber once and for all in an open public
forum such as the chatroom, since he had previously been in there
to "chat" with people, however, I had missed the event.

What I basically said was that if he (Strieber) were "here" I would
"put a bullet in his head" in the same sense that the French employ
the term "Coup de grace."

This term is often used to apply to a variety of other metaphorical
contexts rather the literal meaing from which it derives as
"an act of mercy" in a war theatre or direct combat.

In my context, I was simply using the term to imply how I might
intellectually/verbally vanquish his delusions regarding the whole
abduction phenomenon and, at the same time, end his own
personal misery (and everyone else's) by giving him the
"Coup de grace" ...of an ideological "death" NOT a physical one.

From Whikpedia:

Coup de grâce;

The expression coup de grâce (pronounced /ku də gra/) (French: /ku də ɡʁas/ "blow of mercy") means a death blow intended to end the suffering of a wounded creature. It is often used figuratively to describe the last of a series of events which brings about the end of some entity; for example: "The business had been ailing for years; the coup de grâce which brought it to its knees was the sudden jump in oil prices."

In war times, it means shooting into the cardiac or temporal region of an already shot, but not yet dead person during a military or civilian execution. It can also refer to the final destruction of an already sinking ship; during World War II, ships crippled beyond repair were often finished off by their own escorts, or by enemy submarines. Examples include the USS Wasp and USS Lexington.

In a classic duel to the death, if a person is wounded and not likely to recover, a coup de grâce is performed.

The French pronunciation of the phrase is [ku də gras], but English speakers sometimes mispronounce it as [ku de'gra]. Not pronouncing the final "c" is an example of a hyperforeignism: in French, this mispronunciation sounds like coup de gras, which means "a blow of fat."

Since Mr. Strieber refused to send me the full text of what he claimed he "sent to the proper authorities"(a claim I also find suspect, by the way), I cannot paste in the relevant portions of that chatroom conversation in question.

It became quickly obvious to me that the individual or individuals who read my text at that time might very well have misinterpreted the initial phrase line..."If Strieber was here ...I would put a bullet in his head." When I said "here" I, of course, meant the chatroom, however, I think that whomever complained mistook "here" for "in person" (in my presence) instead, and thus completely mistook the metaphor for the literal.

What I can tell you is that Mr. Strieber, a professional writer with a background with which one might refer to as a 'classical education,' most certainly could easily make such a distinction and recognize the error or interpretation on the complainer's part. But instead, he chooses to play this game of taking things said out of context and TWISTING AND DISTORTING WORDS AND IDEAS TO MEET HIS OWN PERSONAL AGENDA.

And that is the classic defintion of disinformation.

That Mr. Whitley Streiber would like you all to think that his life is "in danger" from the likes of me when, in fact, he knows that to be a false presumption on his part, knowing full well, as evidenced from my prompt e-mail to him on the matter and assurances that I was indeed not intending physical harm towards him, should tell you all something about his lack of Intellectual honesty regarding what is fact and what is fiction. He seems to be almost pathologically driven to deliberately infuse fact with whatever fiction suits his purpose and further his own agenda at any given point in time.

He is a master of words, and to this end, he employs them as virtual weapons of mass distortion ...and subsequent destruction when he uses them as he has to defame and invalidate me or anyone like me who tells a story different than the one he insists on ...and to use character assassination as a means to silence our message.

(Which, incidentally, is a classic Intel MO).

And, after all, Whitley Strieber has made himself a reputation (and a better-than-average living) as a noted author of primarily fiction novels.

And that alone, would seem to me to be just cause for re-evaluating Strieber's claims in regard to everything else he has said to be "true" and authentic within the same fact vs. fiction criteria and parameters to which he seems to be constantly blurring in his own case against me here, most assuredly.

Perhaps, Mr. Strieber's life IS in danger. In my opinion, ALL Monarch Multiples-Alien Abductees live under constant threat of death ...both at the hands of others ...and quite possibly themselves.

In that regard, we are all "dead man walking."





Anonymous said...

This is the first time I have ever seen this incident explained by anyone but Strieber. Your explanation makes sense.

Anonymous said...

I had never thought of Whitley Strieber as an "out and out liar" before, but his own words this week nailed him to the wall:

Explaining why he banned three members from his site:

"Then I see, on another board, this comment by one of them:

"'Think of rabbit stew and rabbit fur! Rabbit fur coats are always so pretty! Have you ever tried hunting? I have not yet, but I would love to.'

"That is a threat. A death threat. It was made just a few days ago, and led directly to the removal of three individuals from my board.

"But it did not remove the danger that I believe these people represent."

That's not a "death threat!" Good Christ. ANYONE with at least one eye and the ability to read can see that. Plus that comment didn't even come from one of the banned members! (I hate the Black Vault, but I took the time, found the post he quoted, and checked! Somebody else entirely posted that.)

Whitley Strieber is a LIAR. He's lying now, and he knows it.

Now we ALL know it. Thanks for keeping us informed, Whitley.

(Or he's just plain nuts. Take your pick.)

Anonymous said...

In addition to lying and paranoia, Mister Streiber has claimed some kind of victimhood. Is he trying to be the martyr of his cause [whatever that cause is]?

Anonymous said...

This is all interesting.

You said in your original email to Strieber that you didn't deny ever making the remark, but you didn't recall ever making it.

Here you seem to have a perfect memory of making the remark and exactly why you did it.

Can you help me understand this discrepancy?

Onesmartrat said...

There is no discrepancy. What you assuming here when you say my "original e-mail" is incorrect; there was more than just what you see here.

Since this happened over two years ago, and he made reference to it ina recent post, I used that as the reference point and not a string of two year old e-mails (for brevity sake) since it is what prompted the inspiration for this blog piece.

Strieber has a tendency to be very ambiguous at times and make broad generalizations saying he has been "threatened" etc. The reason I requested the complete text of the chatroom log in question is because I had no access to it myself and, unlike the message board, where one has pre-thought ideas and written everything out within a state of reflective thinking in solitude and can go back and check later on if they need to, the chatroom is like having a spontaneous flowing conversation with other people and it's a little hard to try and pinpoint where in the conversation one might have said something that offended someone and what it was, if they have no specific reference in order to recall it completely from memory.

The intial reference I was given was very broad and I was accused of "threatening death" to someone (WS) and then was given a certain thing I said as a reference, so that is how I came to access that point in my mind, but the accusation of a "death threat" did not match up in my mind with that or anything else I could remember saying ...unless there was something else I said that was also misconstrued as well, which only WS had access to, so I was covering all bases when I said I couldn't recall (threatening death) being able to be sure what I had said that could have been conceived as such, since I knew I certainly hadn't threatened him with death from any reference point in my memory of it at all ...but without more information which he had access to and was referring to as his source, it would be hard for me to answer fully to whatever else he may have concluded that led him to believe what I had said was indeed intended as a "death threat."

In this case, as in most others, CONTEXT is everything and all I had been given was one phrase I had uttered in the context of a much lengthier conversation which I had no written record of myself.

Hope this lengthy diatribe clears up your confusion.


Anonymous said...

It does.

Anonymous said...

Wow, you wrote over 2,000 words to explain why he should not be offended that you joked you'd "put a bullet through (his) head"?

Just accept that you can't control how people respond to your sense of humor. If you tell a bad joke at, say, a wedding reception, and people don't think it is funny, do you berate the audience until they accept that it is funny, or do you just say "sorry, that didn't go over well, my bad?". Come on. Have some grace.

Anonymous said...

I am glad that Mr Strieber decided to ban the following members. I always desliked Patricia. The way she handled herself on UnknownCountry board always made me feel unpleasant. She is one controlling B*tch! She is a drama queen just like her friend Susano. Though Susano is simply bored out of her mind. I guess her life must be so extremely boring that she decided to add some spice and drama and become obssesed with the subject of mind control. I once thought Patricia was someone you could call "credibile" just like I thought OSR was but notice all of them are troublemakers. Wherever they go whatever they do there is always tension.

Anonymous said...

Whitley Strieber wants people to be held accountable for what they say. Okay. Maybe that’s a good idea.

When does HE start?

He’s made a career out of saying some seriously incredible things, most recently by misrepresenting the facts about the three people he banned from his site the other day: NONE OF THEM ever said what he claims they said; someone else said it.

I suppose HE KNOWS THAT.

But when have FACTS ever stopped Whitley Strieber? His convenient “misunderstanding” provided him the excuse he was looking for.

Maybe that’s all he ever wanted. Whitley Strieber has a track record of “forgetting” his own mistakes.

Case in point: he thought invading Iraq was a pretty good idea--well, when it was popular. Now that now that the Iraq War ISN’T popular, he blames the media. Take a look at the headline from his site the other day:


“How Newspapers Have Failed

“Why did the top newspapers in the US fail to challenge the Bush administration’s claims about the need to invade Iraq in order to prevent terrorism, which we now know was based on untruths?”

Why did YOU Mr. Strieber? Why did YOU FAIL? You supported the war, and bought into the lie, even promoted the administration’s lies to the rest of us, as I remember, just like the newspapers your site is criticizing now!

Why don’t YOU own up to your many mistakes, Mr. Strieber, instead of just pointing the finger of blame at others? As with the newspapers? As with your misattribution of that quote to the three people you banned?

When do YOU take responsibility, Mr. Strieber, for your many, many mistakes?

The Banned said...

LOL! Just so people know, we are fine with having been banned. We've been swamped with emails from UC members, many who have been silent observers of all that's gone on. They are also aware of the purpose that Deanna Dube was brought to the forum for.

We are building a new board, and the discussion will go on. No fluffy bunnies, sycophants, or dissemblers will be allowed, LOL. Stay tuned, it's going to be a good one :)

Change is good. UC belongs to Whitley. Content will be according to that fact.

Onesmartrat said...

Thanks for all your comments.

As for the "rabbit Stew" remark. It is my understanding that NONE of the three banned persons made that remark; it came from a poster at another site who was in discussion with one (or more?) of them. So, I guess in this case, it's guilt by association.

I also would respectfully disagree on the issue of whether ir not it constitutes a threat. I would say that generally the tone of the comment is certainly hostile and could be deemed "threatening" for most under certain criteria, but for someone subjected to Monarch Mind Control, this would most certainly be considered a very tangible threat in terms of how it impacted them emotionlly/psychologically ...and perhaps, depending upon who the originator of the comment was and their intent, it could also be considered an actual physical threat.

Monarchs/Abducutees have Internal World reality programs tailored after such things as age-old nursery ryhmes as well as fairy tales and classical, as well as popular culture, mythos/literature/ films. One such program is Alice in Wonderland, where a White RABBIT figures prominently in the programming-script of Abductees/Monarchs.

This comment strikes me as particularly hostile with ill intent respective of what I said above ...and if it had been posted on any site of mine, I might have taken issue with it as Strieber has and seen it as equally threatening.
In fact, it would prompt me to consider the originator of the remark as a potential handler/programmer and I might even bounce them off my site for it.

Remember, just because he doesn't want to admit it and is intransient in his denial, Strieber IS a Monarch Programmed Mutltiple, so he IS having his Internal Programming triggered here, as are others, and in that sense I can see very easily why this poster's comment elicited such a response from him ...however misplaced his attribution of it may be. Using it as an excuse to ban people who had nothing to do with saying it is absurd and non-rational and in that respect he is way out of line.

AS for the individual who asserted that I spent "2000 words" describing what my "bullet in the head" comment really meant, I suggest you go back and read it this time without distracting yourself by counting the words. It was not intended to be a joke, but a METAPHOR ....and no, I am not sorry I said it as it was a fitting metaphor in the context it was said. And, it was said IN THE CHATROOM DURING A flowing CONVERSATION, not on the message board, where, if I had made that same reference, I would have delineated more explicitly it's meaning in connection with the French term "Coup de grace."


Onesmartrat said...

To The Banned;

I think if you do start a new site, you might want to reconsider the restrictions you wish to place on who will be allowed and who will not be allowed, least you become a mirror-image of W. Strieber.

The people you are referring to as "fluffy bunnies" are most probably Monarch Survivors; themselves in need, more than most, of the information discussed on such a board. That Strieber has chosen to "protect" them from being exposed to that information should not be used against them or as an excuse to deny them access to a news site, despite their resistance/denial to such information.

It's not called mind control for no reason you know?



The Banned said...

I believe anyone will be able to read. No disrupting of the information about mind control will be tolerated, though. It's not going to be another alien worship board, and survivors who tell their stories of human abuse will not be trolled, and harassed. All honest and sincere sharing of information will be welcome.

Anonymous said...

Just want to get my point across:

I am glad that Mr Strieber decided to ban the following members. I always desliked Patricia. The way she handled herself on UnknownCountry board always made me feel unpleasant. She is one controlling B*tch! She is a drama queen just like her friend Susano. Though Susano is simply bored out of her mind. I guess her life must be so extremely boring that she decided to add some spice and drama and become obssesed with the subject of mind control. I once thought Patricia was someone you could call "credibile" just like I thought OSR was but notice all of them are troublemakers. Wherever they go whatever they do there is always tension.


Anonymous said...

You are repeating yourself, "NOONE."

Maybe you should have that checked. Or maybe it is you who are "bored out of your mind."

Anonymous said...

Sometimes I am but at least I have one.

common sense said...

OSR... frankenkitty publically
admits to her feuds at UC as well
as 8 other cyber identities. What
if there was other harrassment and
you are being blamed as a totality
for actions that aren't yours? If
you carefully go through the 115+
BV thread, follow the exchanges,
there is a progression of events.
"blackdaisies" on the surface had WS very angry and furious. i say
legitmately upset. things went into
either/or mode after "zabel" is ejected. the offender thread begins
april 4 or 5 and is before all is
about to happen. OSR... you weren't trolling the board after being banned. i take you at your word on this. must call this one as to the facts of the matter. WS had to do something. susano got blamed for what i feel "opal" did.

Anonymous said...

have the alien aficianados figured out that it's lucifer behind their "enlightenment" yet?

Anonymous said...

Anybody interested in the "alien" abduction phenomenon should read this link:

The people at Unknown Country who worked so hard to squlech the truth from being talked about, are willing servants of the most deceptive, and anti human forces. Call it whatever you want, it goes by different names, in different cultures, but we all know EXACTLY what it is. This is why so many of them talk about getting off planet, and/or becoming something beyond human. They have chosen the great deception, and they recoiled like the posessed people they are, when faced with exposure. They are the enemies of humankind, make no mistake about it. As Shakespeare said, "All the world's a stage...", and this a play of the most serious spiritual importance.

No child can be blamed for having been a victim of this, but every adult has FREE WILL, mind control and "alien" contact, notwithstanding. What happened over there was a clear example of people choosing truth or deception. For the unfamiliar, rent The Devil's Advocate, with Al Pacino.

I've read the same info, elsewhere. The Archons are imitators of real life, and they envy the creative abilities of human beings. Their envy seeks to make us like them, and to separate us from the Source from which we come. The people who go along with this are WILLINGLY becoming hosts for an alien, and artificial, force. At some level, people KNOW the truth. Recognition is inherent in the human soul. That's why even victims of mind control and "alien" abduction are so determined to get the truth. This is SOUL level stuff, and the soul KNOWS. Those who turn away, have made their deal with the great imposters, and have turned their backs on all that is true and real. It's an old story, isn't it?

[quotes found at the black vault]

Anonymous said...

*chirp* *chirp* said the cricket, lol

Anonymous said...

The idea that Strieber is a Monarch multiple becomes more believable almost with everything he writes.

His diehard fans have even noticed it!

Noting his wild inconsistencies of late, one of them even wrote recently: "Frankly I am in shock, and I wonder if he is being held captive and someone is posting in his name."

Sometimes it actually looks a little like it. But odds are that the captivity may be confined to the real estate inside his own head.

Anonymous said...

I am gravely concerned about this new-old 'gnostic' Archon meme that seems to be sweeping away anyone thinking for themselves about mind control, like wildfire.

In essence, this new explanation goes, the aliens ARE REAL but are just the old archons. What are archons, well, essentially they are evil spirits.

Whew, what I relief! Scare's over folks - you don't have to worry about nasty govt agents of mind control abducting or messing with you, it was just evil spirits all along. Better get a priest and dig out those smudging sticks for good measure.

I first heard this 'aliens are archons' idea about a decade ago from an aquaintence who was a member of psyops supremo Thomas Aquin0's T3mp1e of $et, and as far as I know, this is where the meme originated. The Matrix movie was released around then, to promote the same idea that we all live in a false reality, tended by, and under the control of the archons (a creep on strieber's board, aztec, was claiming something similar.)

Many of the new 'gnostic' churches and groups lately springing up (there is also now a whole slew of networked priestly gnostic blogs and yahoogroups,) have priests who were ordained by a wandering bishop known as Primate James Foster. Bishop Foster was previously a priest of the temple of $3t, and longtime mod of the temple's xepera-l egroup...all under his real name (he's also affiliated with that other, archest of wandrin' bishops, the vetran Stephan Hoeller...don't believe the JFK plot As with the Lucis Trust - and that Gurdjieff group Strieber was involved with until they sent him out into the world to do their work - the T0$ spawns new groups and religions, headed up by its 'former' priests who have been sheepdipped out of the motherhouse.

The current 'gnostic' wave seems to have been most recently inspired by John Lamb Lash, a regular guest of Strieber's dreamland, as well as that other bastion of truth, C2C. It would be fascinating to know his background...Hmmmm...

Anonymous said...

I keep checking to see if this site has been updated. Did you only put it up so you could have your say about Streiber?

Come on, when do we get the REAL dirt?

Shaido said...


Shaido here. I never read much of your posts while on UC, but I certainly knew of you.

Recently, I came under fire for daring to suggest that Whitley had been implanting the idea of Al Qaeda attacks on August 18-19 throughout his journal.

QUas defended me siting examples, which is quite brilliant.

UC doesn't mention the APEC meeting at all, accept where I have commented on it.

I was banned from UC once too.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of being banned, here are some whistleblowers from Merrie England. Best read 'em before they're taken down--"andrewmarr" is already gone. The real meat is often in the comments on these blogs.

Anonymous said...

>The Banned said...

>We are building a new board, and >the discussion will go on. No >fluffy bunnies, sycophants, or >dissemblers will be allowed, LOL. >Stay tuned, it's going to be a >good one :)


Anonymous said...


I may have been present, LIVE, in the chat conversation being discussed. I remember that it may have been a lady from Canada who betrayed you and made the original complaint.

My name, Kevin Puppos.

I ran across you in the WS Chat 2 or 3 times, and I aways found your experiences and views extremely intriguing !

You were a nice alternative to WS's views and interpretations on the UFO/ Abduction phenomenon.

The fact that you each differ does not imply to me that either of you is a liar or a criminal- it is intrinsic to the very nature of the phenomenon to be very subjectively experienced and interpreted by the human mind.

I have my own view, a sophisticated view looking at the larger picture of UFO interventions in Human Cultural Evolution.

Is there a way to stay in touch on an ongoing basis ? Maybe Black Vault ?


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